Round Robin #2: Otaku- stereotypes and perception

Looks like I’m the last one in on the topic. I’d say blame it on my work and Kojima, since there are only 24 hours in a day, and after about 2 days of not touching the bed sleep is no longer for pussies. (On a side note: yeap, the game is THE SHIT!!oneoneone!)

Give your own definition of an “otaku”. Do you consider yourself an
otaku [be honest, try to avoid hypocrisy]? What impressions do you
hold towards an otaku [positive/ negative/ ambivalent]? What issues/
insecurities do you perceive in them? Can you empathize with their
insecurities? Do you personally think it’s acceptable to be an otaku?
Do you think people should care about being labeled an otaku? Do you
think that they are a product of society?

I missed the first Round Robin topic, so I’m jumping the band wagon on this one: The Otaku. I actually do distinguish between two definitions of Otaku: the Japanese and the North American one. I won’t go to wiki to look it up exactly, but basically Japanese Otaku does not have to be about anime at all. Otaku is someone who is obsessed with whatever their hobby is. There are anime otaku, train otaku, military otaku and so on. The term usually carries negative connotations and implies that that whatever the otaku is obsessed over takes precedence over everything else: social life, work, relationships, basic hygiene (lol) etc. Into North America this term migrated via anime culture and its usage is restricted to it. As such in North America “otaku” means an anime fan. Well, more of a fanatic, but it still does not have the same negative meaning as it has in Japan. Yes, the current popular stereotype of an otaku is the one of an overweight NEET with poor hygiene and lack of interest in anything outside their favorite anime genre. But then… majority of North American people are overweight, thus the majority of North American anime fans also is. Now, where do you see anime fans in large quantities? The convention! The insane amount of people, running without showers and often without sleep for couple of days, all crammed into a space of couple of city blocks that consists of small rooms where vents are not designed to handle such crowd. Whoa-la! Behold, the herds of bad smelling, badly dressed, antisocial human beings who talk nothing but anime… yea… and you ask where the stereotype comes from.

Now, do I consider myself an Otaku? Yes by North American definition and almost yes by Japanese definition. I am an anime fan (let’s leave yaoi out of it for now) and a figurine collector. This hobby of mine does take precedence over pretty much anything. Family meeting vs. anime - anime wins. Dad’s birthday vs. anime con – anime con wins. Decent food for a month or couple of figurines and a bag of rice – a bag of rice it is! And so on. Though I’m not a NEET, I do tend to shower once in a while and I do have couple of hobbies here and there even though anime/figurines do outrank them all. So maybe I am pushing it with my otakuness. But to become a hikikomori is my ultimate dream, all I need to do is figure out what to do with all the beautiful things of adult life, you know “the job, the family, the fucking big television, the washing machine, the car, the compact disc and electrical tin opener…” (c)

Now, I actually never had any issues with myself being an otaku. I come from a family of anime watching, video game playing parents (not otakus, but they know a thing or two about anime and stuff). So there was no problem there. And yes they know I like yaoi, no problem with that either. Everybody in school I went to actually thought anime was cool, or at least me liking anime was cool. I have a somewhat ecchi wallpaper on my work computer and my work desk is inhabited by couple of anime figurines. No problem there either, so I’m not sure where all the “they are picking on me because Im an otaku” whining come from. Yes, sometimes you get couple of weird people who, when hear the word anime either go “oh, hentai!” or give you the whole lecture about how anime is for kids. The first guys are actually quite easy to deal with. You either just nod to their hentai remark or come up with something worse, for example: “actually, I prefer yaoi”; and when they ask you what it is shrug and say “animated gay porn”. That usually renders them quiet for a minute or two and then they avoid the topic of your hobby for the next… long time. And the second kind just needs to be told to shove it because nobody asked them for their opinion. But then, I’m getting old and age has a lot to do with my perception of the surroundings. I would probably say my age minus about 5-7 years is the cut off point for my fellow otaku. Anyone younger automatically gets labeled a narutard and gets treated accordingly. I’m not saying I don’t fangirl over whatever character, I just keep it to myself. Hanging around a bunch of squeeling fangirls who can’t even uphold a decent discussion on any anime that does not involve bishonen or a guy who does not know the chronology of UC gundam is well, not exactly pleasant. So its not that I dislike otaku in general, its just when it comes to anime the generation gap, well as well as a culture gap is a little too evident. Ok, come people, fess up, how may references in Ergo Proxy did you get? ^_^

Now, do I think otakus a product of society? Well, NEWSFLASH: we are all a product of society. Everything from the way we look to the way we think, to the way we feel, to the things we know is a product of our society, our surroundings. Anime is not some elite form of art, it does not have a deeper meaning, it is nothing great… anime is a form of entertainment created for the single purpose: to entertain you and relive you of your money. It’s not better or worse than whatever sitcom that is running on CBC, or whatever the latest chick flick that is playing in theaters. It’s same shit, different pile. The only two reasons why I prefer anime to all other forms of entertainment is because a) I find it visually most appealing and 2) I like to see what I want to see and so far no other form of entertainment manages to deliver it. So anime-fags, babylon5-fags, trekkies, d&d-fags… you got the point. The only reason why anime is somewhat cool is because its imported. But if by any chance you end up in a star trek convention – trust me, it’s not much different. Its just we prefer the imported stuff. We’re all freaks, be proud of it, without us otakus the world would be a boring place.

And because I forgot: should people care about being labeled as an otaku? Why should I care? I don’t! ^_^

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9 Comments

  1. Posted June 19, 2008 at 12:10 am | Permalink

    First of all…that picture of Kallen is great! Just needed to say that and now I can move on.

    I think the main difference between the anime fandom and all other geek fandoms is that some of the younger fans actually think they’re “better” than other dorks and get offended by being called a geek. Though I did get blasted for liking anime by a trekkie once so maybe it’s not that different (all fandoms have their idiots after all).

    But it’s really not that different from any fandom. The only difference I can find with anime is…a little bit more diversity (trekkies have Star Trek…and that’s it, but otaku get shoujo, shounen, and everything in between).

  2. Author
    Posted June 19, 2008 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    Your use of “North America” seems out of place. It is usually reserved for Canadians with acute inferiority complex (e.g. insecure in their own identity). It is a purely buraucratic term, used discussing common packaging standards and the like. It’s not like Canadians define what otaku means.

  3. meows
    Posted June 19, 2008 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    @Author бля, чего сказать то хотел? а по русски?
    North America is a _geographical_ term and that’s how I use it. You know, North America, South America, Europe, Asia… the columns in the “shipping and handling charges” chart. ^^

  4. lelangir
    Posted June 19, 2008 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    meow: “North America” is perhaps more discursive than it is purely geographical.

  5. Posted June 19, 2008 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    I think you’re right to differentiate between North American (perfectly reasonable term btw) and Japanese definitions.

    Western fans have adopted the term “otaku” in the way that lots of Western people have grabbed derogatory terms and turned them around for their own use: black folks with “nigga” and gay folks with “fag,” for instance. You take away the negative power it holds over you by claiming it for yourself. And that’s perfectly reasonable. But it still doesn’t seem like that attitude is there in Japan. Hard to say, I don’t live there and such a different way of thinking is prevalent in that society. You don’t broadcast things that make you different, whereas in the West (at least in the US, proud to be the rebels…) being a freak is cool in its own way because people like to feel unique.

    I’m curious what it’s like in Russia. How are anime/sci-fi/other assorted nerdy otaku types perceived over there?

  6. Posted June 19, 2008 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    Whole-Heartedly Agree with NA VS Japan Otaku Definition, since I also mentioned it. ^w^ And Unfortunatly, I end up in the age group Auto-Labeled “Narutards”. Kids in my school related Anime to Naruto, or maybe Bleach, since their fans seem to be growing in number (Bleachtards, a product brought to you by Narutards!). Well, unless you’re my Applied Art Teacher. xD She thinks Anime = Pokémans. Anyways, right now as a younger Anime Fan, There’s three types the “comon” Teen Anime Fan know about…

    1: Narutards, Only watch Naruto, MAYBE Bleach.
    2: Yaoi Fangirlies. And they love their Hawt Bishies.

    And that’s about all that the majority of my age group is. I’ve met some messed up Narutards, let me tell you. One of them thinks she’s a Ninja AND a Vampire. Ho gawd, break out the garlic. And I don’t fit into either of the two “Common” types in my age group, thus they don’t talk to me all too much. If I do talk to another Anime Fan, it’s because they also don’t nessesarily fit into those to groups. I like Yaoi, but I prefer Yuri (HO GAWD. YURI FANGIRL. BREAKIN’ THE LAWS OF OTAKUISM)… I hate the Naruto fandom, not too fond of Ninjas anyways, and I like my Bishoujo better then Bishonen. :3 Well, actually, Lolis trump Bishoujo for me sometimes. xD Cute beats Hawt anyday for me.

    Moving on, since I’m getting a bit lengthy, I personally hate the generation of Anime-Fans I have to deal with on a regular basis because they are retarded and squeel more then nessesary. I squee, yes, but I do it at home, when I can run off the energy rather then squeel extremely loudly. And YES I have done so before. My hyperness gets the better of me sometimes. ;3

  7. Posted June 19, 2008 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    Oops, I thought I was going to type three, but I only did two. Oopsies. xD;;;

  8. Posted June 19, 2008 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Wah, frienddddd and fellow otaku!! :P “So maybe I am pushing it with my otakuness.” Nope, not in my book. And I’m 19. I hope that is your age minus 5-7? UNFORTUNATELY, I am also fessing up. Ergo Proxy bamboozled the heck outta me. I don’t think I really understood it at all….. :]]] Not to say I didn’t try, I kept rewatching episodes…

  9. meows
    Posted June 25, 2008 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    @otou-san:
    I actually only know one russian anime fan that fits the stereotype of hikki/NEET (and i troll him mercilessly) Most of my russian-speaking anime-watching friends are… normal somewhat nerdy people that usially have something to do with the IT industry as a profession.

    @NyaChan:
    I host a yaoi panel at my local con… i get the worst of both worlds - a Narutard Yaoi fangirls >_< “One of them thinks she’s a Ninja AND a Vampire” shit! i know one of these too.. and she has a crush on me…. (aaaaa, runs away screaming!!!) Dude, for keeping squeeling to yourself you are awesome ^^V.

    @Hoshi
    don’t worry, I had to hit books for a good half of all the crap in Ero Proxy as well.. though i will never forgive them for killing Raoul!! @(-__<)

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